Thursday, 31 March 2011

Faceboo00ok - Group contact + issues

  • Prior to any sort of group schedule, we used face-book. Although only mildly relevant.






    Oly Walters
    Hey guys just got a message from rob. He said that if we all message Steve and ask for an extension then we may get a couple of extra days.

    Two whole other groups have emailed Steve so if we all do too then we may have a chance. Many groups have run into rendering problems so this could be our chance.

    It's worth a shot.
  • Oly Walters
    Deon you said that you had all the files. Of someone would just send me the files then I'll do it but everyone is too busy arguing. Btw I did sort the spider scene out but no one has sent me the new texture either.

    I've made the tracking work so like I said if someone will send me the file of the mountains with the lighting then I'll do it and send it back.
      • Oly Walters Have you got the texture for the spider?
        23 March at 15:01 ·
      • Deon Carlos Litchmore Okay, I'm going to send the textures for the spider to you. Can you then render that bit with the arm out? 720 x 576 cinepak, mental ray, with final gathering on, in production quality with a little motion blur in mental ray options? So at least that's out the way?
        23 March at 15:22 ·
  • Oly Walters
    I hate to say this but I told deon to send me the files this morning of the scenes and I would put the cameras in and he didn't so don't blame me for that. I have lot the tree and again I sent the tree to deon this morning. I also spent three days sorting out the green screen and masking everything out ready for compositing. I have also got the footage ready to drag an drop the composited files into the sequence and render so don't say I haven't done anything. I did the whole arm shot and it wasn't my fault the texturing didn't work but deon told me to send it to him and he'll do it.

    I'm trying to help but I asked the guys if anyone was coming in today and they said no so when I was asked to drive people to Dover I said yes. Again not my fault the plan changed but I already made that promise. I offered to do the work if it was emailed to me so don't blame me if you won't email it to me.

    I also did the lighting on the spider and the tree and if they tracking was so easy then why didn't anyone else learn how to do it two weeks ago when I sorted it out and it does work because I managed to do the arm shot with it.

    So before you start having a go why don't you think about why this is happening! And I haven't heard you offer to help anymore than your part. At least when ash couldn't do the lit tree I offered to help and did the green screen without being asked and put the footage together.

    If the tracking is such a problem then send me the Maya file with the scene on without the textures and I'll sort the cameras and send it back so all you have to do is apply the textures and render.

    You can't say I'm not trying to help
      • Gerome Oldfield And why this is happening? Its because work wasn't done when it was asked to be done the it still wasn't done when it was told to be done. Like I said I finished 2 weeks ago, If some one needed help and asked me I would be happy to but that's the thing, there was nothing to help with because nothing had really been done.
        23 March at 14:19 ·
      • Gerome Oldfield You can be as annoyed sounding from my post as you like, the bottom line is that me deon and ash are here trying to keep us from failing this unit. End Of
        23 March at 14:20 ·
  • Gerome Oldfield
    I'm sorry but this is ridiculous you lot have decided to not come in because of your own personal priorities (Dom excluded) and you have nothing to show for it! Me, deon and ash are here less than 2 days before we have to hand this project in and you lot think it's ok to not be here? There are 3 other groups in right now in full doing work and they just laughed at the situation in disbelief.

    Sarah, we needed you for texturing but now all of your texturing is gonna be done by deon apart from the branch you made for me.

    Lily, fair enough you animated the spider on the table but I still have yet to see it and if its tracked properly, as well as the legs coming out my back which i'm sorry, but its poor.. I don't understand why you just didn't use the 3D legs that I made and Dom rigged. Plus the animation of the camera to make sure it matches the real life video clip in full.

    Ollie, We have your tracking but as we are not the trackers in the group, we don't know what the hell to do with the files you have given us, so I now have to look at a 14 part tutorial on it and try do the tracking for every scene again.. Also the file is a higher version of after effects than what we have on our machines and also as I have already started to learn about the tracking, I have come to see that it looks like you have just used the auto tracking which, if you have, takes 2 seconds to do and is very poor quality. Also the lighting for the tree and swing (which ash is gonna have to do now)

    So where are we at now? it means that all those jobs which rely everyone to do to progress has to be done by 3 people in the space of 8 hours to even give us the slightest chance of having enough time to render..

    Theirs not even enough time to edit anything at all.

    This is exactly what happened last project and this is exactly what deon tried to make us avoid, but yet we are stuck doing almost every single fucking thing again because people have other priorities above the group project.

    You know what makes me more annoyed? I got my stuff done within 4 days (2 days i was off sick from work on a weekend and 2 days on my "days off") because i knew the group was relying on my models to progress, yes there was a few things here and there I could have done slightly better but I got it done quickly and to a pretty dam good standard if you ask me.

    An once again what gets me evvveennn more annoyed is that if you lot had said, we wont have the time to do anything or we cant do this or that, I would have been annoyed and angry but we would have had the space and time to actually get it done but No.. once again to the last minute we have to rush every thing and hope for the best..

    The LAST things that annoys me the most? We will all get either a shit grade for this or a high grade just because we are here working are arses off for work that should have been done 4 days ago..

    You can think i'm horrible or just raging but the fact right now is that we can not use what you have given us (that's if you have given us anything) without you here because it is either VERY POOR or something we do not understand and need you to do your job so that we don't need to learn how to do things 8 hours before rendering the fucking final thing..

    I'm actually really annoyed.. yes i want to play game, yes i want to go gym, yes i wanna go parkour, yes I wanna do everything that i enjoy or put out to do in my spare time but I CANT DO IT BECAUSE THE GROUPS WORK COMES FIRST.
    Its a full time course which means you need to work within uni hours if the work needs doing as well as out of hours if the work isn't done.

    But yet other commitments take priority. I actually can't believe how this is right now and I'l be dammed if I get a shit mark because of this, as I will try my all to get something to show by Friday, as will deon, as will ash. But If you dont expect me to be this angry because of it, you must be fucking kidding me.

    I like you as people but your commitment to the work mainly because of today and the last few days, i'm appalled and disgusted with.

    Please give me advice, what should me Deon and Ash do now? just give up because we have done our rolls or do all of your rolls for you so we succeed?

    Please tell me.
  • Dominique Koomoshan
    Can people explain to me wtf is going on? I'm not hearing good things about this project. Can people get their act together? What is actually needed to be done?
  • Deon Carlos Litchmore
    Hows it going?
      • Lily Blacknell Im redoing the Gerome bit cos I have now learnt to motion track in After effects. Also do you want the credits?
        22 March at 23:44 ·
  • Oly Walters
      • Deon Carlos Litchmore shadow needs to softer, spider is still too crisp, but other than that it should look okay hopefully.
        21 March at 22:06 ·
      • Deon Carlos Litchmore but otherwise nice job
        21 March at 22:06 ·
  • Oly Walters
    more problems!!! One file has the animation on and one file has the uv map on.
    So when i went to add the texture onto the animated spider, the spider has not been uv mapped at all because it is on a different file.
    There is no way to import the uv layout that i have found and apart from re uv mapping the whole spider again to match the texture, im not sure what to do. Help please!
    on the plus side I have the arm shot almost completely done. It has been matched to footage, animated and lit with shadows and everything but can not apply the texture because of the issue above.
    How are the other scenes coming along?
  • Oly Walters
    more problems!!! One file has the animation on and one file has the uv map on.
    So when i went to add the texture onto the animated spider, the spider has not been uv mapped at all because it is on a different file.
    There is no way to import the uv layout that i have found and apart from re uv mapping the whole spider again to match the texture, im not sure what to do. Help please!
    on the plus side I have the arm shot almost completely done. It has been matched to footage, animated and lit with shadows and everything but can not apply the texture because of the issue above.
    How are the other scenes coming along?
  • Deon Carlos Litchmore
    Right, can EVERYONE respond to this post? I need to know exactly where everyone is at with the project. In a couple hours it will be Monday and we'll have to start rendering by 3/4pm otherwise we'll possibly end up being late, and I'm sure none of us want that.

    So, everyone: Have you finished your job or will it be finished by tomorrow?
  • Dominique Koomoshan
    Oly Walters we really, really need you to come in tomorrow because we need to finish this tomorrow and you're the only one is doing the tracking.
  • Dominique Koomoshan
    Just to let everyone know, due to some complications I may not be turning up tomorrow. I may have to stay at home.
  • Deon Carlos Litchmore
    Ash / Oly. Have you started the lighting yet? Contact me
  • Deon Carlos Litchmore
      • Ash Umanee wiccckkked im down for a lil moonlight night going on and so is my pikachu wooop woop
        17 March at 02:40 ·
  • Deon Carlos Litchmore
    Oly and ASH. ASH SAHASHHAHSHHAHSHAHSAHSHASHAHapikachu. This is the mountain modelled and textured, with ambient occlusion and lights. (Mudbox) This is the effect we're going for (with suggestions of course) but this is what you'll be replicating, check above what default image in maya
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  • Gerome Oldfield
    thats more of a close up view but dont bother about the material colours aof them and the lighting lol
      • Deon Carlos Litchmore Do you want the concept art gerome?
        13 March at 19:41 ·
      • Deon Carlos Litchmore
        Would you like me to do front and profile sketches of everything that needs modelled?

        The mountains look cool. Id say make some more angular though instead of bumpy so like /\ but good job.

        On a real though sort out the tree LOL some broken ...See more
        13 March at 19:43 ·
  • Gerome Oldfield
      • Ash Umanee daaamn least it will be good for your blog though ^_^
        13 March at 18:48 ·
      • Dominique Koomoshan I didn't even know anything about mountains, so no wonder I didn't know.
        13 March at 18:49 ·
  • Dominique Koomoshan
    I'm going to contact everyone individually, but, we're all going to finish this in a week. I have faith, we'll just have to work very hard. I think at the end of the deadline we should do something to celebrate. So, right now, let's work towards that reward in our minds.
  • Gerome Oldfield
    what Iv'e got from what I know its suppose to look like. any input?
  • Deon Carlos Litchmore
    1 week left.
  • Deon Carlos Litchmore
    Hows it going?
  • Deon Carlos Litchmore
    So guys, In preparation for tomorrow, let's try and make this as awesome as possible. Sorry I didn't make it in today, woke up with a huuuuge headache. But anyway:

    GEROME - You're first. All black, over the top. Turn yourself into some anime character.

    Oly - Same outfit in the green screen footage that we shot.

    Dom (Lily + Sarah) - Lily and Sarah you're in brackets cause I dunno if this is something you'd be interested in do, but yeah. MAKEUP ARTISTS! For both Gerome and Oly.

    Ash - Bring the top if you can. If not, don't worry about it.

    Everyone - Any portable lights/ torches you can find, bring et.

    Me - Find out how to get rid of the zoom and auto compression the camera does.

    I was going to say, after a good shoot (assuming) we could all go to the cinema and see I am number four and I'd pay half of everyones ticket, but Oly has work (noob) and Dom is going to see Black Swan (smallernoob)

    Anything I've missed? Or any suggestions?
  • Oly Walters
    hey guys. Ive just been looking at the footage we shot the other day and I hate to say it but its not very good. Its really zoomed in and the stuff we saw on the screen on the camera is not what has come out on the film. Some stuff you cant really see and an the first lot is way too zoomed to comprehend what is going on. Are we still reshooting tomorrow? Its quite funny to watch but I dont think wed be able to add cg to it lol.
      • Lily Blacknell thats cool, we have the lesson on wednesday this week so we have thursday off lol
        21 February at 23:41 ·
      • Deon Carlos Litchmore Yeah, that sucks. And the quality got auto compressed, HARD. Thankfully we're going to re-shoot.
        22 February at 19:10 ·
  • Dominique Koomoshan
    Today and Thursday we'l be discussing and FINISHING the storyboard. Friday is filming. Needs to be done ASAP. I want everyone to set their own task for the weekend that suits around their commitments. Make sure you set a task for yourself that you CAN complete.
  • Deon Carlos Litchmore
    Who's in tomorrow?
      • Oly Walters I'm gunna be in Thursday but also have work so can't stay longer than on the timetable. Been I'll the last couple of days
        15 February at 17:20 ·
      • Sarah Strickland I cant Afford to go in tomoz And then the rest of the week, but i should be able to stay an hour after on thursday.
        15 February at 18:24 ·
  • Oly Walters
    I really like the idea and story it's simple but effective. Its kind of Alice in wonderland too. One question though. What am I wearing tomorrow and what am I supposed to bring? I have two very similar shirts one dark red and one light blue if that helps? Ive even got an Alice in wonderlandesque dress if that helps.
      • Dominique Koomoshan bring ANYTHING :D I say because...I'd rather we have too much than too little choice.
        09 February at 23:56 ·
      • Lily Blacknell yeh I agree with Dom, bring as much as possible we can do different takes with you in different stuff lol, we want as much as posible to play with
        09 February at 23:58 ·
  • Oly Walters
    storyboard part 2
      • Oly Walters Sorry I don't have a red hoody. I have a red shirt?
        09 February at 23:49 ·
      • Dominique Koomoshan Erm...bring it anyway :}
        09 February at 23:49 ·
  • Dominique Koomoshan
    Story of idea
    • Spider could be an abusive boyfriend possibly?
    • To escape Little Miss Muffet’s fears, she could escape to her own fantasy world like Alice in Wonderland, Paranoia Agent and Paprika. Despite feeling content, a spider slowly crawls down from the umbrella she’s holding and meets her at eye level. She freaks out and quickl...
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      • Dominique Koomoshan I know that isn't even a proper script. I could write it a lot better, but meh. I'm tired.
        09 February at 23:20 ·
  • Oly Walters
    storyboard part 1
  • Lily Blacknell
    this is the dress I kept going on about.
      • Lily Blacknell you cant have it >.< but you may borrow, if it fits lol
        09 February at 19:18 ·
      • Oly Walters Lol
        09 February at 19:19 ·
  • Dominique Koomoshan
    I'd like to still be using the fb group, but obviously also use the group one too.
  • Dominique Koomoshan added Ash Umanee to the group.
  • Dominique Koomoshan
    New blog guys for the post production! http://tasacdws1.blogspot.com/
    tasacdws1.blogspot.com

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